This is another one of those long posts so here’s a very brief summary.
Most Forums out there are corrupt and controlled by the sponsors. If posts on a sponsored forum are not in line with sponsors guidelines they will be deleted and you will be banned. And even on very reputable and independent boards like BOS you can be banned for no reason whatsoever. So whatever you read on a forum (especially about steroids brands) should be considered as advertising and NOT as an OBJECTIVE opinion.
Since I started to using internet I am aware that Internet is a curious place where the domain owner dictates the contents of the page. When the first forums started this got a bit complicated - in order to attract people to create content admins had to allow the users some freedom writing content, but had to limit them in the extent to which the debates or information provided would be allowed to be published. At that point it was decided by most Forum admins that in order for a Forum to be credible, ground rules would be set, and as long as those rules are obeyed, a user would be allowed to post her or his thoughts and info.
In bodybuilding things are about the same. Well, almost. It’s no secret that wast majority of Bodybuilding Forums these days has a “sponsor” which pays the bills, but at the same time the content is edited to the extent that information on potentially competitive products to the sponsor are not allowed to be published, or the info about them can only be bad. The forums where this is not so are scarce and their numbers are getting lower…
The problem is that there’s a lot of money in bodybuilding and most admins and mods at one point or another get tempted to make some easy money or receive free gear. “Manufacturers” on the other hand try to take every advantage/marketing they can get. Furthermore, as they sell crappy prods bought mods are the best, simply bann people that complain and everyone is happy. Well, except for the majority of users.
I have had great respect for William Llewllyn for a long time now. His books on Anabolic Steroids are legendary, and with the revenue they make one would expect that the bodyofscience forum would be completely independent (not dependent on UG contributions) and an example of integrity among bodybuildig forums. I’ve followed the discussions for a long time now and although there were certain discrepancies (Alin advetising…) in general you could generally discuss and diss every company out there. Not many places you can do that.
I know administrating a forum is not an easy task. One of the reasons there is no forum on Premium Steroids is the fact I don’t feel competent to handle and moderate all the discussions. You could say that I am a perfect example of a critic but many of the mods out there could use a lot more self-criticism than me… As said above, the admin needs to be very careful if the forums integrity is to remain high. as long as forum has a small, limited amount of members, it’s easy to moderate it; but once the reputation and integrity rise, the influx of new members requires additional mods, and you never know how they are at their work. On elitefitness there’s a mod that will offer you his services for a moderate fee (in gear) if you only spamm hard enough on the forum. C’est la vie
To make mistakes is human and how you rectify the mistakes you’ve made really matters, someone said long time ago. I make mistakes all the time and I don’t expect other not to make them, and I do believe (or hope) that most people will try to correct their errors if able. And here is where my gripe with the Body of Science begins.
I’ve been quite inactive in the past years so in spring I created a new account on Body Of Science. I usually read more than I write and only comment when I feel I can add to the the debate, so my posts count wasn’t as high. In August I had my vacation and as a rule avoided the computer as much as possible. So imagine my surprise when I logged into my account and was gratified with the following sign:
vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
mrdext, dexterj, Deus Ignotus… ignorance IS bliss… peace out
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
I need to explain here, Deus Ignotus was my username (means god of idiots btw), mrdext is another member on the forum, and “ignorance is a bliss” was my sig (whoever wrote this did capitalize the IS part) the rest is beyond me. I don’t think I’ve violated the terms of BOS (I’ve actually read it) and you can check by yourself whether the Deus Ignotus posts were against the BOS rules.
As I didn’t have a clue what is going on (still don’t btw) I thought it was some kind of an error, so using a new user account I opened a thread explaining the above (albeit not in so much detail) and asking for an explanation. I’d post a link to the topic, but it was deleted and I was banned in less than 12 hours. This is the message I got when trying to login with a new user name:
vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
You are a dumbass and will continue to be banned. You know why you are banned. Don’t act like you’re innocent.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
WTF?!
At this point you’re probably thinking “he must be hiding something” but that’s the worst part, you can check my posts, I didn’t write any PMs, nada. If I did something wrong I’m not aware of it but would like to know it. Interestingly, btw, I do believe that calling names is against BOS rules. As Mod is always right I must be a dumbass, especially so cause I still don’t know why I’ve been banned. Thinking back, I must be able to see the future as I’ve picked such an appropriate nick for the forum.
I’ve heard of many instances when a member would be banned from this or that forum for whatever reason but until now I was unable to relate to it. Now it feels pretty dumb (there is something about these mods). And I can’t help thinking how many poor sods get banned every day for no apparent reason what so ever.
The purpose of this narrative is not to spill hate on Body of Science forum (well, maybe just a tiny little bit) and i will definitely continue to follow the threads there. After all, it is the only place where you can keep up to date on all the new UGL brands surfacing every day. But do consider this whenever you read a post on ANY forum; it is an example of censure and editing at work. If I got banned for no apparent reason imagine what would happen to a post of a Whistle Blower informing you of a contamination of the forums sponsor’s brand. Be aware that on a Forum you may never get a full story, and some perspectives can always be deleted. Use your head.
MESO here I go