As was promised, below is a picture of new British Dragon design, this one specifically for Stanobol Inject. A lot of info is still missing though, like how exactly will the “BD-PSS” look like, where the prods are available, etc.
Couple of weeks ago there was a news post on www.britishdragon.com stating that new batches of their products are now ready and being sold. The whole news post was like this:
First line of products
British Dragon is glad to announce that the first line of products has left our facility and the products are available on the market. Do note that all British Dragon products are protected by our BD-PSS system. BD-PSS consists of state of the art hologram and security verification number. All End-customers are advise to verify the legitimacy of their product by verifying the security number on our web-page.
We advise all customers to check the BD-PSS on their product for each and every product. BD-PSS is designed in such a way that it is destroyed if it is tampered with and customers are advised to return any products that show signs of tampering with. Given the amount of counterfeited British Dragon products we must emphasize not to use any British Dragon products that don’t have BD-PSS hologram and number or it is damaged. Using unverifiable products can be lethal!
At that time I was really excited, after all, British Dragon has always had a special spot in my hart as being one of the best manufacturers of it time. Resurrection of a brand with promises of extremely high quality products was really important to me, I guess as much exciting as Bugatti resurrection was important and exciting to car enthusiasts. When I got news they started selling their products I was thrilled. I will never own a Veyron but I’ll sure as hell try to get my hands on some Andropen. OK, I know newer say never and maybe I will some day get my hands on a Veyron, or the new sedan they’ll be putting out. And I know Andropen is now called Sustabol Inject, but the thrill is still there.
But there is this little problem that I’m having these days - It’s been couple of weeks since the news and I can’t find ANY place that would have them on stock. I know there’s places that sell British Dragon, but they’re selling the old version, according to the official British Dragon page counterfeited… All I could find were some sites that have British Dragon listed as coming soon, and just about nothing else. No pictures, no info whatsoever.
There are people claiming they’ve seen em, some are saying that the first batches were sold to exclusive customers, some saying it all went to Dubai, etc. Basically, there’s bunch of unconfirmed rumors and no hard info. I’m being promised a picture soon, and I will be sure to post it as soon as I get, but beyond there is really no info available out there.
I sure do hope the analogy I used above (the Bugatti part) will not become completely true. As Bugatti is reserved for the elite and only seen on TV and in the newspapers, I hope the British Dragon will not be seen only on the internet and used only by the special few who can afford it.
Well, I’m really being proud of myself right now. I thought that only limited number of people are reading this blog and with the workload at my job I grew really lazy writing it. I guess I just got a new kick now
I stopped checking BOS regularly after I was banned twice, so it took me a while noticing, but today I got to see this new Body of Science topic. And basically it’s all about this site and the posts posted here. Awesome.
I though about writing a response on the topic but hey, I’d be banned just the same, so why bother.
The biggest misunderstanding (I could say lie, but everyone can interpret any post his/her own way) is that I’m attacking BOS for some weird reasons, trying to push Asia Pharma products, threatening Bill, attacking honest UGLs, etc. I hope this post will clarify matters. And will probably be misunderstood and misinterpreted.
Firs of all, YES, I like Asia Pharma products. I don’t hide it, I’m proud of it. I also like Zambon, Organon, Schering, Norma, etc. The manufacturer doesn’t really matter as long as the products is of good quality. I’ve come by many good products in my time and have learned to appreciate quality. And I’ve tried many bad products that in the end completely ruined my cycle. Either they were not even close enough to potency advertised, or they were completely mislabeled, usually both. I’ve had the luck of never getting a serious infection but know people that did. For all those reasons I don’t like Underground products. I want to be as good as I can be and for me what really matters is the end result which only quality products can give, even if I have to pay more for them. Be all you can be.
I have a sponsor. Who doesn’t? I appreciate the fact that I can get gear for less money or free, and if all it costs me is to have a banner on the site, hell, why not. Now, to make it a conspiracy theory out of it, that’s a bit too much though. I saw numerous posts on the subject of Asia Pharma ownership with numerous suppositions, but I better get it out in the open now. I own Asia Pharma. I also own British Dragon. I bought them from the dividends received from my shares in Schering-Plough. And in case you didn’t know the whole reason we took over Organon was cause we really wanted to have Deca and Susta in our portfolio. And the only reason I’m doing this blog thing is cause I’m bored. Doh.
The funniest part of the whole post is the “lie about registration etc” part. Now I’m a cautious person (I think) but the wealth of info AsiaPharma has provided regarding their products manufacturing is incredible in comparison to other brands. Yet it seems it is never enough. Show this show that. Once they do - “o, you faked it”. If the guy took the time to read the articles on this page, he could at least also post the pharmacy links in the older posts. I’ve been to those and they actually sell Asia Pharm. I guess he only shows info that supports his claims and ignores the rest. Tc tc tc, what would your old teacher say about that?! His summaries all all wrong too, as in many of the articles quoted there is no mention of the AP brand whatsoever, although I do hope there is something educational in all of em. But in the big picture I must be writing all that just to advertise Asia Pharma. I hope I get big bucks out of it. Wait; I already own all the companies.
Here’s a funny one:
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Furthermore, you never know where the UGs are made. Well, actually, you can imagine. Remember the last drug related movie you’ve seen (doesn’t really matter which one) - the drug lab you’ve seen in that movie is exactly what an UG lab looks like. Well, probably looks even better, remember, there’s a lot more money in drugs. And that product you inject every day for 3 months. When you’re buying a car you would like to have all the possible Airbags, electronics, and god knows what else just so you would be safe in case you crash. But you might not crash. Actually, probability of a crash is a lot lower than probability of an infection from a product made in a dusty trailer-park that you will inject every day for 3 months.
OK, I know this analogy is a bit off but I hope it gets the message over. You want to be the best and only the best products can get you there.
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TRANSLATION
Buy asiapharma.com eurohormones.com new britishdragon.com overpriced UGL because we asiapharma eurohormones britishdragon tell you that it is HG.
And all other UGLs and HG producers are bad for you.
Now if anyone can bother to read the actual post, he’ll realize that It’s all about using Human Grade gear without any specific brands. How this person sees this article as a bashing of any other GMP human grade steroids is beyond me.
As far as Bill’s bashing is concerned, it’s quite simple. I’m a critic and critics criticize. I’ve written many times I have great respect for his work but there are things that he could do better. And that is exactly as the articles were meant - as Constructive criticism meant to further improve his work. Any person that considers himself to be an educated person knows it for what it is. I know Dextroz went to college so he obviously must have skipped that class - here is a description of constructive criticism by wisegeek.com:
Constructive criticism is criticism kindly meant that has a goal of improving some area of another’s person’s life or work. Often constructive criticism refers specifically to the critique of someone else’s written or artistic work, in perhaps a teacher/student setting, that would allow that person to further improve the work or to improve their approach to future endeavors. However, constructive criticism can also apply to a critical reasoned analysis of a person’s behavior, as in a patient/therapist setting or a group therapy setting.
I did not, however, write anything without proper argumentation. A wise many would see that my actual articles are meant to improve peoples awareness on the subject at hand and also giving them some food for thought. Only a highly prejudiced person would think an article in which I suggest Bill to tell us more details on the testings as a threat. But in the end that what it’s all about. The whole point of the thread on BOS is blemishing the reputation of anyone who would ever say a good thing about Asia Pharma. Basically, if you like the stuff, you are bad.
But Dextroz is right in one thing, ones writing speaks a lot of the author. Now I look at his posts he’s doing exactly what he’s accusing others of doing. He makes claims that he cannot support in any way but with a “Translation” of posts of other people (me mainly). He attacks everyone indiscriminately without checking their background - most people in attacked in his thread have far more integrity than himself, and attacking such people without substantial evidence is plainly stupid (not me, but S.B.C. for example).
Asiapharma owners and shills milo, barron, s.b.c., dexterj, mrdext, methan, kendall, Dolcedoberman, peanutbutter and the lot we are not interested in what you have to say.
Some of these guys are admittedly spammers, but other are definitely not.
Furthermore he refers to other articles on the internet which are all written in the same style that suggest they are the work of the same group/person. And those same references use evidence like “adjusted” articles by William Llewllyn.
And among all this, writing how disgusting everything is, accusing people of making threats, he goes and threatens the first person who replies to his thread:
Now shut it or someone else will do it for you.
Sherlock, BOS is a forum and people are supposed to make comments, what did you think, you’d just make 500 accounts and have it all to yourself?!
Judging by all this I can’t help but believe this is simply a tactic to make the other guys look bad while you try to sell as much of your own brand. Otherwise, why so much rage, so much hatred, attacking like a small rabid dog? The dog’s got no teeth but barks in the night nevertheless.
Well, I still learned couple of thing from this:
British Dispensary lost the license for Androlic and not Anabol. My bad.
Cause so many people believe British Dragon is associated to Asia Pharma and EuroHormones these days we might get BD HGH? That would be good and sure as hell is worth looking into it.
Forums really are full of s*** these days.
This is another one of those long posts so here’s a very brief summary.
Most Forums out there are corrupt and controlled by the sponsors. If posts on a sponsored forum are not in line with sponsors guidelines they will be deleted and you will be banned. And even on very reputable and independent boards like BOS you can be banned for no reason whatsoever. So whatever you read on a forum (especially about steroids brands) should be considered as advertising and NOT as an OBJECTIVE opinion.
Since I started to using internet I am aware that Internet is a curious place where the domain owner dictates the contents of the page. When the first forums started this got a bit complicated - in order to attract people to create content admins had to allow the users some freedom writing content, but had to limit them in the extent to which the debates or information provided would be allowed to be published. At that point it was decided by most Forum admins that in order for a Forum to be credible, ground rules would be set, and as long as those rules are obeyed, a user would be allowed to post her or his thoughts and info.
In bodybuilding things are about the same. Well, almost. It’s no secret that wast majority of Bodybuilding Forums these days has a “sponsor” which pays the bills, but at the same time the content is edited to the extent that information on potentially competitive products to the sponsor are not allowed to be published, or the info about them can only be bad. The forums where this is not so are scarce and their numbers are getting lower…
The problem is that there’s a lot of money in bodybuilding and most admins and mods at one point or another get tempted to make some easy money or receive free gear. “Manufacturers” on the other hand try to take every advantage/marketing they can get. Furthermore, as they sell crappy prods bought mods are the best, simply bann people that complain and everyone is happy. Well, except for the majority of users.
I have had great respect for William Llewllyn for a long time now. His books on Anabolic Steroids are legendary, and with the revenue they make one would expect that the bodyofscience forum would be completely independent (not dependent on UG contributions) and an example of integrity among bodybuildig forums. I’ve followed the discussions for a long time now and although there were certain discrepancies (Alin advetising…) in general you could generally discuss and diss every company out there. Not many places you can do that.
I know administrating a forum is not an easy task. One of the reasons there is no forum on Premium Steroids is the fact I don’t feel competent to handle and moderate all the discussions. You could say that I am a perfect example of a critic but many of the mods out there could use a lot more self-criticism than me… As said above, the admin needs to be very careful if the forums integrity is to remain high. as long as forum has a small, limited amount of members, it’s easy to moderate it; but once the reputation and integrity rise, the influx of new members requires additional mods, and you never know how they are at their work. On elitefitness there’s a mod that will offer you his services for a moderate fee (in gear) if you only spamm hard enough on the forum. C’est la vie
To make mistakes is human and how you rectify the mistakes you’ve made really matters, someone said long time ago. I make mistakes all the time and I don’t expect other not to make them, and I do believe (or hope) that most people will try to correct their errors if able. And here is where my gripe with the Body of Science begins.
I’ve been quite inactive in the past years so in spring I created a new account on Body Of Science. I usually read more than I write and only comment when I feel I can add to the the debate, so my posts count wasn’t as high. In August I had my vacation and as a rule avoided the computer as much as possible. So imagine my surprise when I logged into my account and was gratified with the following sign:
vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
mrdext, dexterj, Deus Ignotus… ignorance IS bliss… peace out
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
I need to explain here, Deus Ignotus was my username (means god of idiots btw), mrdext is another member on the forum, and “ignorance is a bliss” was my sig (whoever wrote this did capitalize the IS part) the rest is beyond me. I don’t think I’ve violated the terms of BOS (I’ve actually read it) and you can check by yourself whether the Deus Ignotus posts were against the BOS rules.
As I didn’t have a clue what is going on (still don’t btw) I thought it was some kind of an error, so using a new user account I opened a thread explaining the above (albeit not in so much detail) and asking for an explanation. I’d post a link to the topic, but it was deleted and I was banned in less than 12 hours. This is the message I got when trying to login with a new user name:
vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
You are a dumbass and will continue to be banned. You know why you are banned. Don’t act like you’re innocent.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
WTF?!
At this point you’re probably thinking “he must be hiding something” but that’s the worst part, you can check my posts, I didn’t write any PMs, nada. If I did something wrong I’m not aware of it but would like to know it. Interestingly, btw, I do believe that calling names is against BOS rules. As Mod is always right I must be a dumbass, especially so cause I still don’t know why I’ve been banned. Thinking back, I must be able to see the future as I’ve picked such an appropriate nick for the forum.
I’ve heard of many instances when a member would be banned from this or that forum for whatever reason but until now I was unable to relate to it. Now it feels pretty dumb (there is something about these mods). And I can’t help thinking how many poor sods get banned every day for no apparent reason what so ever.
The purpose of this narrative is not to spill hate on Body of Science forum (well, maybe just a tiny little bit) and i will definitely continue to follow the threads there. After all, it is the only place where you can keep up to date on all the new UGL brands surfacing every day. But do consider this whenever you read a post on ANY forum; it is an example of censure and editing at work. If I got banned for no apparent reason imagine what would happen to a post of a Whistle Blower informing you of a contamination of the forums sponsor’s brand. Be aware that on a Forum you may never get a full story, and some perspectives can always be deleted. Use your head.
I’ve had some really good experience with Asia Pharma products for more than 6 months since I’ve first used them. But I’m camera shy so no pics of me.
One of our readers has no qualms about taking pictures and he has has sent us a picture of him and the effect the Asia Pharma products have produced, according to him Trenabolic is by far superior product he has ever used. A picture speaks a thousand words.